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Well, good morning, everybody.
How are you? Good. You're all stunned. Where's he
from? I'm originally from Australia, but I live in Atlanta now, which
is why I've developed that strong southern accent you can hear.
So, yeah, my name's Gary Bates. I'm the CEO of Creation Ministries
International, and we have seven offices around the world, employ
lots and lots of scientists, and we deal with this old chestnut
of creation versus evolution. As you saw on that short video,
that's all we hear. and we're taught it is science.
We're gonna discuss some of that today. You know, when you came
in, you probably saw some of the book tables there, et cetera.
That's information for you. We call ourselves an information
ministry. Let me just say, I'm not here
to sell you a bunch of books, because that's not how our ministry
is funded. Last year, we spoke at 336 or 34, I'm not sure, churches
in the US alone, and we come out to create awareness about
this creation evolution issue, and get information into your
hands for two major reasons. Firstly, to equip yourselves
and your families, and secondly, to fulfil the great commission
with that information to reach your neighbours, et cetera. I
apologise for my voice. I've been at the homeschool conference
up in St Charles, given five talks over the weekend, and I
developed some terrible virus, so you're not getting that usual
lovely dulcet tones of the Australian accent this morning. Good news
for you, though. Someday you'll hear it all, because
you're going to be speaking it in heaven, but anyway. Let me just start off this morning.
What type of information am I talking about? So let's indulge the little
Aussie here this morning. Maybe you're here because you've
had questions, or you've got questions that have been asked
of you by your friends, your children, your grandchildren,
and they go like this. You know, if the Bible's true,
we all came from Adam and Eve. Who did Cain marry? Ever had
that one? Or if the Bible's true, we came from Adam and Eve, what
about the races? Where did the different races come from as
people think there are races? You know, we're told there was
an age of dinosaurs 300 to 65 million years ago, so why can't
I see dinosaurs mentioned in the Bible? Or what about this
one? I think the number one question we get about the nature of God,
a challenge to our faith, is this. If God is a God of love,
why does he allow all the bad things in the world? You ever
had those questions? Well, I'm not going to pick anybody out,
but let's just do a snap poll. If you've ever received or had those
questions, pop your hands up in the air. Keep them up, please,
because just do a head turn and have a look. That's about 90% of you raised
your hands, and I only asked you four questions. And people
have dozens of questions in that area, don't they? You've all
received them. And those questions are intellectual stumbling blocks
to people believing in the truth claims of the Bible. So that's
what we bring all that information out for. We're faith funded.
We're supported to produce that information. One of the great
sources of information is our website. Our ministry's been
going for 41 years, and there's 41 years' worth of creation research
on that website all free. You can type into the search
engine, you know, what about carbon-14 dating? People think
that proves millions of years. If you've got a pen, I'm going
to give you the web address. I apologize, it's a very convoluted
web address to remember. There it is, creation.com. So
for example, you're at home watching the Discovery Channel and you
see these anthropologists in Africa and they say, look, here's
a fossil leg bone of a hominid that was a precursor to man and
lived 2 million years ago. You see it. How do you deal with
that? Whenever they have these claims, we usually have an article
and try to respond to it as quickly as we can. And so I encourage
you to sign up for our free email news called infobytes. I'll give you an example. When
things are in the media, remember Steve Irwin, the crocodile hunter?
His zoo was just a couple of hours north of where I lived
in Brisbane, and when he was killed by that stingray, lots
of people commented on our site, because we allow comments at
the bottom, and they said, well, why did a god of love design
stingrays that kill people? How would you answer that? Well,
we just put a paragraph in our email news and then see a link
to the article, send it out to folks like you on our electronic
mailing list and then you forward it. So easy in this digital age. And do you know that became the
most visited article on our website in just 10 days. So that's how
you can use these events to provide answers. So when you go out today,
you're going to see the ushers there. They're going to be holding
up some sign-up forms for the Creation Magazine. You can sign
up for the Infobytes there. But I'll let you use your mobile
phones in church today. How radical is that? You can
text your email address, your zip code, to that number up there. You might want to write it down,
take a picture of it. I'll keep it up for a few slides if you
want to do that. Of course, you can always unsubscribe if ever
you want to. And I'll get on with the major talk. You know,
we employ, I think, probably more scientists than any Christian
ministry in the world. And boys and girls, listen, that's
a very valid point to make because our scientists got their degrees
in the very same universities as their revolutionary believing
counterparts. The issue's not about science. We're gonna unpick
that today. It's about worldviews. And I've depicted the two major
worldviews like two trees. You know, the Lord Jesus spoke
a lot about trees and fruit. I'm gonna use his analogy today.
Now, look on the left-hand side. We've got this tree called humanism.
What does humanism mean? Humanism simply means man decides
truth for himself. You can make up your own rules
about life. Now, why do people think that? Well, humanists always
believe in evolution. That's the foundation, that's
the soil that that belief system is planted in. And if you subscribe
to that as your worldview, well, what kind of fruit might you
think it would produce? Well, look at some of the problems
the church is dealing with. You know, racism, murder, gay
marriage, euthanasia, abortion. But I submit to you, they're
not the problems. They are the fruit of, or the symptoms of,
a foundational problem, which is humanism with its roots in
evolution. The idea there is no God, no creator to be accountable
to. Contrast that with the tree of
Christianity there. See, everything you and I need
to know about the Christian faith, the nature of God, our need for
salvation, where do we get that information from? Hopefully you
got one with you, hold it up. The Bible. It's God's word, his
revelation to mankind. And if you subscribe to that
as your worldview, you should produce fruit in accordance with
that worldview. We'll believe that abortion is wrong and believe
in the sanctity of life because we're made in the image of God.
And he knew us before we were even formed in the womb. We'll
love thy neighbor as thyself. You know, that's interesting.
You know, many years ago, before we even had the genetics revolution,
we'd send missionaries off to third world countries. People
looked different to the majority of us here. But they trusted
God's word. And you know what? Science has
caught up with what the Bible says. We now know we can fit all the
varieties of human beings on this planet. We could have fit
them within an original human couple. We are 99% genetically
alike. What does that support? It supports
the Bible's history that we were all descended from an original
man and woman. See, most people believe in evolution
for one simple reason. I can't emphasise this enough.
It's all people are ever taught. It's not tomorrow or maybe or
perhaps mums and dads, grandparents, boys and girls. They will be
taught evolution as a scientific fact in the classroom tomorrow.
How are they going to hear the alternative? How are they going
to make an informed decision if they don't even get to expose
to the other point of view? I stand before you as a former
evolutionist, like my scientific colleagues. That's what we all
believed. And you know, when I first became a Christian, I
tried to fit the millions of years of evolution in the scripture.
Well, you know, don't worry about Genesis. I mean, there could
be many ways to interpret it. Well, a side issue, I mean, we've
just dealt with that. It's not as if it's a foundational issue.
What about the idea it's not important? Well, let's check
this out. Did you realize there are over
100 references to the book of Genesis in the New Testament?
And specifically Genesis 1 to 11, those 1 to 11 chapters are
creation, the fall, the flood, the dispersal after the flood,
the Tower of Babel, there are 60 references. Every New Testament
author references Genesis 1 to 11, right? Every Genesis 1 to
11 chapter is referenced in the New Testament. Now I'm starting
to think it's important. And the Lord Jesus himself referenced
Genesis 1 to 11 on 16 occasions. Wow, why did they do that? Well,
they did so because they built a church doctrine upon that.
The doctrine of salvation, soteriology is based upon the events in the
Garden of Eden. Let's take one of those fruits, gay marriage,
right? Well, Jesus was questioned about marriage. You can read
it in Mark 10 6, and he replied thus, have you not read? What do you think he was referring
to when he said that? The Old Testament, the Torah,
the law. Have you not read at the beginning of creation God
made them male and female, therefore, you know, what God has made,
the creator let man, humanism, not separate. The basis for his
authority argument of what defined a marriage was what the creator
had made in real time, in real history, in real time and space.
It wasn't some fairy story. You see, you've probably all
seen pictures like this. This is this evolutionary tree of
life. And, you know, down the bottom,
apparently you and I, we're just nothing more than evolved pond
scum. And it makes you feel special, doesn't it? Millions of years,
survival of the fittest, death and struggle leads to your average
civilised American there at the top, right? Or Australian. Now,
why did I caricature it like that? Well, think about it. They
call it a tree of life. Is it a tree of life? If you
know anything about evolution, it's a tree of death. Death is
the savior. Culling out the weak, you reproducing
your genes to outcompete your neighbor. It's all about, you
know, they call it survival of the fittest. It doesn't sound
like blessed other meat, does it? You see, death is virtuous
under the evolutionary scenario. The Bible indicates there's a
different reason how death came into the world as a result of
sin. And in fact, ladies and gentlemen,
when we see bad things happen out there and we see tsunamis
and earthquakes because the ground was cursed in Genesis and people
die of cancers because you and I were cursed, it should be a
reminder that something's wrong and we're living in a cursed
and fallen world. We go back again to Genesis to understand
why death and suffering is in the world. You see, that's the
foundation of what we call a non-Christian worldview. And what's a worldview? You hear that word a lot, right?
But a worldview is like a set of glasses or a framework. Here
we picture it like a telescope through which people interpret
all reality. Mums and dads, you might not
realise it, but once our kids reach the age of understanding,
they've actually pretty much already developed a worldview for themselves.
You can be a Christian. but actually not have a logical,
consistent Christian worldview. Our thinking should be based
upon the scriptures. Let me distill our worldviews
down for you another way. I like to talk about those three
big questions, and you've heard of them. They go like this. Why
are we here? What's our meaning and purpose
to life? Right, sorry, let me start again. Where do we come
from? Why are we here? What's our meaning and purpose
to life? And the third one, of course, is what happens to us when we
die? Now, let's go through those two scenarios. If evolution is
true, question one, tell me, is there any meaning and purpose
to life, really? No, you live, you die, that's it. What about
life after death? There isn't any under that scenario, is there?
But if the Bible's true, if God is creator, you and I were created
with meaning and purpose, made in his image. And by the way,
the decisions we make in this life, they're gonna affect where
we spend eternity. Now, the reason I did that, let
me just demonstrate something. Questions two and three will
always be determined by what you think about question one.
created or evolved? Are you starting to see why I'm
saying it's a foundational issue? Would it be fair to say anybody
could even think has had to consider that foundational question which
gives the value to their meaning and purpose, et cetera? Now,
I'm going to tell you some bad news before I get to all the
exciting good news, because I've got, you know, like 45, 50 minutes
this morning to convince you this is such an important issue
that you need to be involved in and can easily be involved
in. So I've been doing this for a long, long time, about 30 years.
And the statistics I'm gonna show you, I can bear out time
and time again. Already this morning in the first two services,
I've had parents come up to me and say that their kids are gonna
be one of these statistics that I'm gonna show you. There's an
organization in the US called Barna Research, you've probably
heard about them. Been surveying the church for many years, pastors
use their research. In a confidential survey of Christian
teens in the church, So these are young boys and girls in Christian
families sitting in our pews. Confidentially, they revealed
that only one in three of them intended to continue attending
church after they left home. You see, what's interesting,
I come from Australia where we don't have a lot of churches.
In fact, I often point out we think there are more churches
in Atlanta where I live now than in the whole of Australia. And
I'm going to be really blunt with you this morning. What I
see, you know, particularly in the conservative South is, oh,
those statistics, but that's not my son or daughter, because
they're powering on in the youth group and the Sunday school.
But you know what? They're not equipped with the
answers they're going to get in higher education or out in
the world. See, evangelism starts at home, apologetics, giving
a reason for what we believe. That's why this is important.
Well, let's line it up a little bit. Here's some students. And
one says to the other, you seem a bit down. That science class
of yours went for ages. What happened? She said, teacher
said, but nothing special. We came from pond scum. We're
just evolved apes. They said, so what are they teaching
in your next class? And she says, self-esteem. Many a true word
spoken in jest, right? Okay, so what are we going to
do about the science? See, we hear the word evolution
and science in the same sentence. But evolution is not science.
The type of science you and I understand is what we would call operational
or experimental science. It's where you do experiments
and you build upon that. It's the type of stuff that gives
us technology. But when you're dealing with the past, whether
it's creation or evolution, we're in the era of historical science,
history, alleged events that happened in the past. Take a
closer look at it. Operational science means you
can do experiments in the present, repeat them, test them, and so
on. If I wanted to do a test to test the boiling point of
water today, right, I could do it today. Tomorrow, I'll keep
getting the same results. And when I boil it, I noticed something
interesting. Steam escapes gas. And I think,
hmm, I could capture that, get a wheel, get some copper wires,
and then you keep getting better over time. That's the experimental
method. But what about the idea that dinosaurs evolved into birds
65 million years ago? Anybody see that? Or humans evolved
from ape-like creatures 2 million years ago. No one was there.
You can't repeat it. You can't test it. Both creation
and evolution are belief systems about the past, worldviews. And
by the way, evolution is full of alleged one-time events. That's
the problem. Now, I remember being in a church
in South Africa some years ago, and I'll never forget it, because
at the end of the service, this young man literally ran up to
me and got in my face, and he was a young atheist brought along,
and he said, you creationists, he said, you bang on about operational
science, he says, and you ignore examples of it. I said, what
do you mean? He said, fossils. Boy, if I had a dollar every
time somebody raised fossils with me. Fossils. Fossils take millions
of years to slowly form. He said, therefore, your idea
of what he called a young earth, I call it the biblical age of
the earth because that's where we get the age from. He says it's blown
right out of the water by the very science you just spoke about.
How would you answer that? So I showed him this picture.
Have a look at this. This is a fossilized ichthyosaur. We believe that it's an extinct
marine reptile. But what's really neat about
it, have a look at that, there's the baby coming out of the birth
canal. Now, my wife's with me on ministry this weekend. She
doesn't always travel with me. But listen to this, mums. We've
got four adult children, and when she was pregnant with our
firstborn, we lived in a very rural part of Australia. And
she was having trouble in labor, and they flew her on an air ambulance
called the Flying Doctor up to a city. And when she eventually
gave birth, she was in labor for 37 hours. Yeah, but can you imagine this
poor creature slowly giving birth over millions of years while
it was slowly being fossilised? What do you reckon? Of course
not. See, when you see that picture,
you can understand that something rapid and catastrophic happened
to it in the process of giving birth. And yet here's a picture
from my grade 11 biological science textbooks. By the way, you've
got these, this is being taught, this method at elementary age
now in this country. And here's the fish swimming
along, and he sinks to the ocean floor when he dies. Now, I just
believed and accepted that for many years. But does anybody
see the first mistake? Well, what do you think happens
when fish die out in the ocean? Do they sink to the ocean floor?
They're going to float, aren't they? You notice those nature
documentaries on TV with all the thousands of dead fish on
the ocean floor waiting to be fossilised? See, in the real
world, that fish is going to get scavenged. It's going to
get eaten. Nothing lasts very long in the
natural world. Now look what they're saying. While that fish
is lying on the ocean floor, look at these high mountains.
They've disappeared. A little bit of water carries
a little bit of sediment down. The present is the key to the
past. Students are going to hear about uniformitarianism, taking
what we see today and extrapolating it back hundreds of millions
of years in Earth's history. And the sediments cover the fish.
It becomes permineralised, and then the process starts again.
But folks, how do you get a fossil like that, excuse me, using that
process? See, what you need, here's the
fish swimming along. You need a lot of mud and water in a short
amount of time. You can bury the fish quickly
in those layers, and before long, you can get yourself a rapid
fossil. You might be thinking, hang on, that's a bit simplistic.
Because it's the process of permineralisation, where the organic material is
replaced and turned to stone. That's what takes long periods
of time. But it doesn't. To get a rapid fossil, all you
need are the right conditions. Check this out. This is a soft
felt hat. Buried in a volcanic explosion
in New Zealand and 20 years after the initial eruption, they found
this cabin and this hat along with other artefacts had turned
into a piece of solid rock in less than 20 years. You just
need the right set of conditions to get a rapid fossil. Check
this one out. From my home state of Western Australia, right up
in the far northwest, the outback, the owner of a trailer park found
this solid rock ring exposed in the sand at low tide. What
do you think it was, anybody? Yeah, lots of people say a tyre.
Check it out. It's a roll of fossilised fencing wire. And
you can even see the individual strands of wire so precisely
fossilised we could measure the gauge of the wire. You just need
the right set of conditions to get a rapid fossil. And check
this one out. And again, let me point out all this stuff.
This is my subliminal advertising, by the way. Look at this creation
magazine. It's where it all came from. It's easy to understand.
It's a lay magazine. They're going to give you an
opportunity to get that at the end. But a family walking along a beach
in Australia said they saw that rock, kicked it over, and got
a surprise because inside was a toy car. So fossils can form quickly under
the right conditions. Rocks can form quickly under
the right conditions. But listen very carefully, boys and girls,
listen when you get exposed to this in higher education. All
the rock layers around the world they claim is evidence of hundreds
of millions of years. And in those rock layers are
fossils, dead things. And they say that's a record
of evolutionary development on the earth. Well, remember this. They don't have more evidence
than us. We have the same evidence. We have the same facts, both
creationists and evolutionists. The same rocks, the same fossils
to look at. But the story you hear about them is our belief
system being applied to the data, right? We already made our mind
up about how the world came to be before we ever look at the
facts. Now, I know most of you probably don't believe in evolution,
but if you're like most, you've probably struggled with this
biblical age of the earth being thousands. And I've learned that
it's because most people don't know where the idea of millions
of years comes from. And I'm going to show you. This
is it. It's not radiometric dating or anything like that. I'll show
you that later. Let's use the Grand Canyon. Can you see these
coloured bands of rock? See these layers? That's called
strata. And in the strata are very fine
layers called sedimentary layers. They believe that particles are
washed in or blown in. Each layer takes a year. And
so they look at the Grand Canyon. There are hundreds of millions
of layers. So they assume they're looking at hundreds of millions
of years of Earth's history. Now, who's heard stories like
this? The Colorado River. wound its way through the canyon
and eroded it over tens of millions of years. In fact, you've all
heard stories like that, haven't you? So you look at it and say,
there's evidence of deep time. Well, I'm going to show you something
that turned me from a long-age evolutionist into a Bible-believing
creationist. And some of you will be familiar
with the events in Mount St. Helens in Washington State in
1980. Now, they knew it was going to erupt because the mountain
was swelling. There were many earthquakes going
on. Look at it venting. And when it did erupt, it didn't
blow its top. Look at that. It blew its side. One third of
the volcano erupted, and it blew lumps of rock as big as a city
block over six miles from the blast site. But you know what?
This is just a baby when we consider some of the geologic events in
Earth's history. And in the aftermath of the initial eruption, there
were flows, and it laid down bands of strata, just like you'd
see in the Grand Canyon. There's a lady at the bottom.
It's like a scale. See this middle section? Let's have a close look. Laminations, sedimentary layers,
thousands of them. And the conventional way we're
taught to interpret that is, must have taken thousands of
years. Well, that 22-foot band of strata there was actually
laid down precisely on June 12, 1980, in just three hours as
a result of the catastrophic events of Mount St. Helens. When
you go back to Mount St. Helens today, there are canyons
all over the place. By the way, there's the dates
for the other two flows. So look at this canyon here. It's called
Engineer's Canyon. See the little river running
through it? It's called the North Fork of the Toutle River. And
again, let's just do a self-check, because when we look at that,
we might immediately think, because of our education, wow, that little
river eroded the canyon over a long period of time. For the
reason it's called Engineers' Canyon is nearby Spirit Lake
had overfilled with water from the volcanic eruption and Army
Corps engineers diverted water from Spirit Lake into what was
a little gully and they eroded that out in just a few months.
By the way, don't think the material was soft and washed away. The
floor of the canyon is solid basalt. That's hard volcanic
rock. And you can see the striations or the scouring of the rock where
it's been eroded by fast-flowing mud and water. Excuse me. And if you look at the screen,
see my pointer there? That side canyon they called
that Little Grand Canyon. Here's another picture of it.
And I'd love to tell you that one took a few months to carve
out, but actually that was formed in less than 24 hours as a result
of a giant mud flow. See? See, what we're talking
about is not a little bit of water, a little bit of sediment
over a long period of time. We're talking about a lot of
water, a lot of sediment, a lot of mud, a lot of debris over
a short amount of time. It can do an incredible amount
of geologic work. And, you know, all over the world,
ladies and gentlemen, we do find thousands and thousands of feet
of these sedimentary rock layers with dead things in them, fossils.
They say that's a record of millions of years of Earth's history. We have the same facts. Let's
put our biblical worldview glasses on. Is there an event in the
Bible, an event in the Bible's history you think could have
laid down some of those layers? I mean, I'll give you a clue,
it involves a lot of water. What are we talking about? The
flood. The flood of Noah. So next question.
How long did the flood last? Not the rain for 40 days and
40 nights. How long did the floodwaters stay on the earth? A year. 12 months. So think about this. If all those sedimentary layers
were laid down in Noah's flood, where did the millions of years
just go? It's not there, is it? By the way, if there's no millions
of years, there's no time for revolution. In fact, that picture
there, I could do a whole talk on the order of the fossils.
It's actually what we'd expect from a global flood because of
the Bible starting in the deep oceans, et cetera. All that stuff
comes from Creation Magazine. And again, I'm not here to sell
you a magazine. That magazine for 41 years has had no advertising. Don't worry, we've been asked
because it goes to 110 countries in the world. But we resist doing
it, so faithfully I can come to church and promote it to you
as a resource. And that's the type of information we have in
there. I want to deal with the six days of creation. This is
the thorny one we get hung up on. You know, when I first got
saved and I was an evolutionist, I used to use this passage here,
where the Lord, a day's like a thousand years. And of course
it goes on, a thousand years are like a day. Kind of cancels itself
out, doesn't it? See, that would be using a passage
out of context though, because that's talking about the patience
of God. that he's not willing that any
should perish. Here's another one, the gap theory. Some of
you, my vintage and a bit older, if you were weaned on the Schofield
Study Bible in Baptist circles, they argued for something called
the gap theory. Still quite popular today. And
it goes like this. In the beginning, God created
the heaven and the earth, Genesis 1.1. And then we insert a big
gap of time. And I'm leaving a gap of time. I'm letting my brother catch
up here. You going all right? All right, there he is. Now why did
they do that? Well, they believed that the
rock layers was evidence of millions of years. So they put a gap of
time between Genesis 1, 1 and 2. But those rock layers were
full of fossils. The Genesis floods not to chapter
six. So they invented something called Lucifer's flood to explain
all the rock layers and the fossils in the gap. Okay, this is pretty
easy to deal with to be honest. Can anybody give me chapter and
verse where I'd see Lucifer's flood mentioned in scripture?
Is it in there? See, that's called eisegesis,
by the way. That's where you add outside
ideas in scripture. The exegetical approach, okay,
is to test scripture with scripture. By the way, Lucifer's flood,
it's called ruin reconstruction, okay? He ruined a pre-Adamic
world and then God had to recreate. Actually, most people who subscribe
to gap theory don't know the full story about it. So let's
go to this passage. Exodus 20, 11, for in six days
the Lord made the heavens and the earth, that's verse 1, 1,
no period, no gap, and the sea and all that's in them rested
on the seventh day. Everything in six 24-hour days. There's
no gap. And by the way, I don't know
if you recognize this passage, it's a very significant one.
It's actually one of the Ten Commandments. Inscribed by the
finger of God in tablets of stone, right up there with thou shalt
not steal, thou shalt not murder. I mean, we have a problem with
those other commandments? Of course not. By the way, when
we go back, let me ask you, Lucifer's flood, is Lucifer, Satan, a fallen
angel? Were all the angels made by God?
Yeah. At end of day six of creation,
God saw all that he made, and it was very good. Satan could
not have fallen before day six of creation. He couldn't have
been doing that terrible work there. So there are all these
interpretations. You know, today theologians are
getting more convinced, well, maybe the flood was not a global
flood, it was a local flood, despite the language of Genesis
and the mountains being covered. But let's think about this. We
know the size of the ark from scripture, 462 feet long, 70
feet wide, 60 feet high, three decks. Noah took somewhere between
70 to 100 years to build this massive ship. Why did he take
all that time and go to all that trouble? Because think about
it, he could have packed a suitcase and walked off to another country
at that time. Why were birds on the ark if the flood was local?
Remember they released the dove, no dry land, no dry land until
eventually there was. Theistic evolution is the idea
that God used evolution. He lit the fuse of the Big Bang.
By the way, the Big Bang is something that a group of creationists,
and be careful when someone calls themselves a creationist, we
call them progressive creationists, Dr. Hugh Ross, Reasons to Believe,
he believes in soulless ape men before Adam and says God created
a Big Bang 14 billion years ago. The framework hypothesis, sadly,
this is one of our more popular views in seminaries today, and
you've probably heard the idea that Genesis is not meant to
be taken as history, but it's kind of poetry. The gap theory
I dealt with. But let me deal with this one,
the day age theory. This is probably the most popular.
You know, the days might be millions or billions of years each. That's
what the progressive creationists believe. Because they say the
word day, which is yom in Hebrew, can mean an indefinite period
of time. And you know, that's actually
correct. But it's a bit of a bait and
switch to say that means that in Genesis. Because we always
understand the meaning of words from the context they're used
in. Let me give you a couple of examples this morning, make
it really easy. Here's another quick quiz. If I said to you
it took me three days to fly from Brisbane, Australia to St.
Louis, how many 24-hour days have I spoken about? Someone
quick. Good. Not a trick question as you saw.
The reason I wanted you to do it quickly is I didn't want you
to think about it, have time to think about it. And you didn't
need to because when I put a number in front of the word day, I just
defined the context to you. You knew I was talking about
a 24-hour day. So if I said, hey, It's really good to be with
you here this morning. Actually this evening, I'm gonna
be speaking in another church. Evening and morning, you understand,
are parts of this day, a 24-hour day. So let me change the context
on you. What if I was to tell you a story
about something that happened back in my father's day? How
many 24-hour days am I speaking about? You can't tell. See how you can change the context?
So what's the context in Genesis 1? Well, we start in verse five,
God called the light day, darkness he called night, there was evening,
there was morning, there was one day, three definers of the
context. But you know what? It goes on.
There was evening, there's morning, there's a second day. Evening
and morning, a third day. Evening and morning, a fourth
day. Now, I don't know about you, but you're starting to see
a pattern here. Evening, morning, a fifth day. Evening, morning,
a sixth day. Six times over three definers of the context. I mean, to be honest, if God
really wanted to define them as 24-hour days, could he have
made it any clearer? And you know what amazes me?
Is we'll sing great worship songs and we'll ponder, you know, God
of wonders, all the galaxies. Do you know our sun is but one
of 200 billion stars in our Milky Way? The next galaxy is 2 million
light years away. And the next one after that,
20 million light years away. And there are hundreds of billions
of galaxies, all containing hundreds of billions of stars. And the
Bible says God determines their number, and he calls them all
by name. But you couldn't have made it in six days. Why? Because scientists have said
the world's 4.5 billion years old. No, they don't. They just
interpret geology incorrectly. That's it. See, check this out. Outside of Genesis 1, the word
day, yom, in the Old Testament appears with a number 410 times. Evening and morning without the
word day. Evening and morning with the word day. We've got
all these different combinations, and it appears 523 times, and
no one ever questions those as anything but a 24-hour day. It's
only in Genesis that they question it. That's the wrong exegetical
method. See, but here's the other issue.
There's a deep theological problem if you try to add millions of
years and evolution to the scripture. Do you remember those days of
creation? God saw that they were good,
good, good, and day six he says very good. The Hebrew term there
is tov miyod, which means perfection, completion, finished. So if the
evolutionary interpretation of all those geologic layers around
the world with dead things in them is correct, that's a record
of death and disease and suffering on the earth over millions of
years. So would Adam and Eve been stood on a fossil graveyard
underneath them and God looks down and says, yes, that's all
very good. Is death good? No, death stinks. It was an intrusion
into God's perfect world. See, look, in the New Testament,
one of those New Testament passages, it makes it clear there was no
death and bloodshed before Adam. Sin entered the world through
one man and death through sin. No death before Adam. So let
me go back a step here because even if you don't believe in
evolution, but if we try to add millions of years to the Bible,
remember the millions of years comes from the rock layers. There
are fossils, dead things in the rock layers. We've inadvertently
put death before the fall. That's a gospel issue. If death
was in the world for millions of years, why did Christ come?
What's so bad about death? So summing up, evolution says
death's a good thing. It's what led to mankind. But
the Bible says it was our actions that messed up God's creation,
it's his. He put us as the stewards here
and that's the problem, we messed it up. And even though we messed
up God's perfect world, he sends a rescue mission from heaven
to pay the penalty of death that was due us for fouling up the
nest. And you know, people want to
know if God's a God of love. Isn't that an incredible story of love,
ladies and gentlemen? That that incredibly wise and
infinite creator of the universe humbled himself and became a
man and took our place. See, we got what we didn't deserve.
That's called grace, unmerited favor. That's how much love God
has. And boys and girls, if you're here and you're in the church,
You know, going to church doesn't make us a Christian, even you
big boys and girls too. See, being a sinner, it's not
what we do, it's who we are. Blame it on Adam if you like,
but we're all just as bad as him. And that's because of the
Bible's history. But check this out. Here's the
good news. The second last chapter in the
whole Bible, Revelation 21, look, God shall wipe away all tears
from their eyes, no more death, neither sorrow. Nor crying neither
shall there be any more pain. The former things have passed
away." And check this out, the very last chapter in the whole
Bible, Revelation 22, says, look, in the New Jerusalem, I don't
know if you realize that, there's the tree of life again. And there
should be no more curse. What curse is it talking about?
Which book in the Bible do we have to go to to find where the
curse entered the world? Back in the Garden of Eden in
the book of Genesis. So you got the last chapter in
the Bible referring to the very first book in the Bible, the
undoing of that work. And how can God do that? Because
he's the creator. How can he raise the dead? Because
he's the author of life. That's the God we worship. Don't
put him in a little box, ladies and gentlemen. We're not limiting
God. God limits himself by his word. And if I haven't convinced
you yet, here's another one of these statistics, particularly
applying to our Southern Baptist churches. They said back in 2002
that 88% of our young ones will leave the faith at age 18, never
to return. As I said, when I come over here
and I see such a church culture, why are we not even keeping the
ones that we've got? And they've been surveyed for years. So I
took a small film crew, And I went on to college campuses in Atlanta.
And you can watch it on creation.com forward slash fallout. There's
a trailer there. And as the students walked past,
I asked four questions. That's it. And the first question
was, were you raised in the church or not? And if they said no,
we let them keep walking. We wanted these young ones that
said they were raised in the church. So the second question to those
kids was creation or evolution, what's true? That's all we asked.
Out of the hundreds of students we surveyed, ladies and gentlemen,
only five children said they still believed in creation. So
the next question, when you were at church, did your parents,
pastors, leaders, anybody show you the wealth of scientific
evidence we have to support biblical creation? Every single student
who was raised in the church and now believed in evolution,
not one of them had ever seen this information. The handful
of kids who still believed in creation, every single one had
seen it before. And here's the thing, they didn't
get all the answers, but at least they knew there were answers.
The last question, do you still attend church? And all those
kids that said they now believed in evolution, except for one
young man, and we put him in the video to show we weren't
stacking the deck, no longer attends church. The handful of
students who said they believed in creation, every single one
of them said they still attend church today. Still think this
is a foundational issue? My 30 years of ministry, this
is the number one issue. Attack the book of Genesis, attack
the foundation of the Bible and the gospel, and the rest will
just topple away, ladies and gentlemen. Well, let me leave you with this
quote here, and I'm gonna show you some resources in a minute
so you know where to look. A town hall columnist, Mike Adams,
he's a professor, and he said this, if Christianity dies in
America, it will not be for a lack of the evidence of its truthfulness.
It will be for a lack of the dissemination. That means the
sharing, the spreading of the evidence of its truthfulness.
I said I've been in ministry for nearly 30 years. You know,
when I first started, there were about four books on creation.
Today, there's not only us, other good creation ministries, we
have thousands and thousands of resources to support you in
this area, more than at any time in the church's history. And
I have to be honest with you, I don't get tired of sharing
this information. I'm so passionate because we are uncovering so
much more information. You know, Darwin knew nothing
about the study of genetics, right? We're in the genetics
revolution, so that's why I can say all humanity is closely related.
There's one race. The human race, that's it. That's
what science shows. So our website, 12,500 free articles
on there. There's a weekly TV show, and
the lead article changes every day, keeps you up to date. Some
books, this one here, The Answers Book. If you don't mind me saying,
I think every Christian home should have a copy of that, because
it's the 65 most asked questions on creation evolution. And you
were sitting there when I mentioned galaxies and stars, and you thought,
well, hang on, Gary. How did we see distant starlight
millions or billions of light years away if we think the universe
is only thousands of years old? We get insights from scripture
and real science using Einstein's theory of general relativity.
Refuting evolution. That's basic high school science.
That's what our young ones will be taught in high school. It
deals with the curriculum or junior college. It's the largest
selling creation book of all time. Now, we put those in a
pack. and you buy two books, you get a third resource for
free. If you just want the answers
book, if there's some left, it's $14, normal price for a book,
but what we're doing here for this church is if you buy one,
I'll give you one for free. Why is that? Because we want
you to give one away, all right? Give one to someone else who's
asked you those questions. Geology, as I said, is the culprit for
millions of years. Don't think this is a hokey,
dumbed-down children's book, you adults, grab this book, Do
it with your young ones because you will learn a lot about where
the idea of millions of years comes from. We had a family write
to us and say their six-year-old daughter, they took her for a
walk. She picked up a rock, told them the name of the rock. Why
is that important? What is she seeing? God's world. Noah's flood all around her.
And there's a companion dinosaur book. People think dinosaurs
lived millions of years ago. We have lots of evidence they
didn't. There's a five-cover hard pack. Elementary-aged, you
can see the price for five hardcover books. Parent helps in the back.
If the stuff I've said to you today is, well, I've heard all
that before, Gary. That was pretty basic. You wanted something in-depth,
this is the Rolls-Royce of creation books. It's an 800-page scientific,
theological, and historical commentary on Genesis 1 to 11. It's got
everything. That's the one book that has everything. Dinosaurs
and man living together. They carved them, they pictured
them, and they called them dragons because the word dinosaur was
not invented until 1841. It's a modern word. And when I talked about all this
evidence we have, it's just not in the area of biblical creation.
Do you know there's a ministry here in the U.S. that's going
to the Middle East because of ISIS have been burning monasteries
and burning books. And they're trying to digitise
all the ancient Greek manuscripts before they get lost. And when
they're in these monasteries and they're pulling off books,
they're actually finding more manuscripts that we didn't know
we have. We have more manuscript evidence today than we had 100
years ago. So you can be sure that the very words you have
in your English translation Bibles convey the very words and meaning
that God wanted to communicate to us. I told you this is an
exciting time to be a Bible-believing Christian. By the way, have a
look at that inside this booklet. Oops, sorry, wrong way. We Defend
Inspiration. How did God, you know, choose
the books that we have as people think? But check this out on
the inside back cover. I did up a chart and showed you the
2,800 cross references in the 66 books of the Bible showing
you the unity of scripture. Isn't that exciting? They're
like a blur. And it wasn't mentioned, but my claim to fame, I'm a Christian
ufologist. Wow, what's that? Guy studies
UFOs and aliens for a living. This was my first book. became
an Amazon top 50 bestseller, the only creation book to do
that. And I don't mention that to boast, but to point out more
non-Christians have read this book than Christians. See, the
whole concept, believe it or not, of God creating alien life,
and I know Christians struggle with this, but you can look it
on our website or read the book, is a gospel issue. But people
do have experiences. They see things and they have
real experiences. And I tell you, I come from a
very conservative Christian background. It was very confronting to me.
And there are these people who claim that they've been abducted
by aliens, four million Americans. Well, I can tell you something's
happened to them, but it's not aliens. And we have testimony
after testimony. It was made into a movie last
year. It's been on over 1,000 screens
around the world. My board asked me to do it about
three years ago. And we've had testimony after testimony of
people confirming what we showed in the movie, that their experiences
stop when they call on the name of Jesus Christ. So you and I,
we don't mix in those circles. We're sanctified. We're protected
by the blood of Christ. But people outside the church
who don't know the Lord, never read the Bible, never been in
church, well, if the Bible's true, there is a spiritual realm.
There is activity going on all around us. And that's a great
resource you could give to somebody who's not interested in Christianity.
Say, hey, here's a book about UFOs and aliens. And guess what?
At the end, it's all about Jesus. And I have a little bit more
time. Let me tell you an interesting story. We just send our documentaries
off to film festivals and whatever. The world's largest film festival
is held in Los Angeles every year. It's called the Remy Film
Festival. It's where Spielberg, Francis Ford Coppola, James Cameron,
they cut their teeth. And we just sent it off there
for a bit of a laugh. We thought at least the reviewers
are gonna see a Christian movie because it's all about Jesus
in the end. Well, surprise, surprise, a few
months after the festival, we got a package in the post, and
it said we won a bronze reward at the world's largest secular
film festival. What does that mean? They had
over 5,000 entries that year, and alien intrusion, unmasking,
and deception ranked in the top 10% of all their submissions.
Isn't God good? That just blows me away, all
those people got to hear the gospel. You can get them in a
pack out there. Last thing. Creation Magazine. If there's one resource you should
get, there's no advertising in it. There's a children's section.
I mentioned radiometric dating. Well, here's an example. This
rock, we know the age of the rock from the volcanic explosion
was 50 years, and we sent it off to a radiometric dating lab,
and it came back with an age of 1.35 million years. Something
wrong with the dating methods there, isn't there? Boys and
girls, you'll love this one. Check this out. I should have
brought it with me, because I've got one. It's a fossilised teddy
bear. Now, do you think that's millions of years old? But when
people think fossils take millions of years to form, could you see
how one picture could really shake their foundational view?
And information changes lives, ladies and gentlemen. This young
man wrote to us a few years ago and he said, your work was very
important for me becoming a faithful believer in the Bible. I was
an atheist and convinced of evolution until a year ago and I started
to listen to those crazy young earth believers trying to disprove
them and here I am now, praise the Lord. You can subscribe somebody
else. This young man came up to me
in a church in Australia with tears in his eyes. And I said,
look, could you write down your testimony? People would be encouraged.
Look what he wrote. Thank you for your ministry. As a friend,
as a child, a friend bought me a subscription to Creation Magazine. I attended public schools where
evolution is taught, but with the information provided to me
through your magazine, my faith was never shaken by evolution.
I am now a Sunday school teacher, and my favorite topic is showing
God's glory through creation. I attribute your magazine, a
magazine. as a major contributor to the strength of my faith and
my love of science. And that's why we promote it quite assertively.
So when you go out, see the guys, the Yashas, they're going to
be holding up their hands, grab one of these forms off them.
The magazine is $29 for one year for print. But what we do out
on ministry as an incentive for you to get it, we're going to
give you the digital for free. The digital is $19 by itself.
When you get the digital version by email, we allow you to share
it. So your children, your grandchildren,
or a friend at work, you could share it with as well. You get
our free monthly newsletters, which tells you what's happening
here in the US. So you're going to get the first edition today.
You can start reading. You're going to get the free
digital version sent to you. But if you sign up for two years,
which is cheaper, just $50, we're going to give you all that plus
a documentary. And this was where we retraced
Charles Darwin's voyage on the Beagle. We went to the Galapagos
in South America and we interviewed evolutionists and we said, you
know, if Darwin knew what we know today about science, do
you think he would have been an evolutionist because of the
things that shaped his views? And I'm also going to give you
another DVD. And this is that documentary called Fallout where
I interviewed students on campuses. And do you know when I asked
them what was their best evidence for evolution, 90% of them said
the fossil record, the fossil record, the fossil record. And
yet that is the easiest thing for us to explain as creationists,
ladies and gentlemen. What we see in the fossil record
is completely consistent with a global flood. So all of that
is there. Sign the form, how many years
you want it. Don't forget to put your email
address so we can send you the digital. Take it to our volunteers
at the tables and they'll give you the free gifts. One last
thing in Creation Magazine. We're told that the last dinosaur
died out 65 million years ago according to evolution. And all
over the world, we're finding unfossilised red blood cells. That's what you're looking at,
still in its organic state. We're finding ligament, flesh,
Blood vessels that are still soft and stretchy. This is not
rocket science. I mean, how could they even be
a million years old and remain in its organic state? It fits
the Bible's timeframe of creation a few thousand years ago and
the flood. See, that's evidence that changes
somebody's mind. Dinosaurs are one of the most
asked questions. Let me leave you with this passage. Be ready
to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason
for the hope that is in you. And of course it says to do this
with gentleness and respect. Can I encourage you that evangelism
starts at home, ladies and gentlemen? Equipping our children to have
answers when they go out into the world. Maybe you're sitting
here today and you've had doubts. Maybe you've been coming to church,
you've had doubts about the scriptures and whether God really exists
because, well, I don't know if the Bible's really true. Or maybe
you're sitting here and I've maybe rattled your cage a little
bit. I'm sorry for that because maybe one of your cherished icons
of inserting millions of years in the Bible, I've just kind
of dealt with as well. But let me ask you, you can trust
God at his word. We are in an exciting time to
be Bible believers, ladies and gentlemen. We have so much information.
You know, what we see out there in God's world, should always
agree with what we read in his word, and it does, if we're wearing
the right set of glasses. Don't take the secular, non-Christian
interpretation of the world to try to tell us what God's trying
to say to us today. I'll leave you with that thought.
God bless you, and I'll be around if you've got some questions.
Thank you so much. Thank you, Gary. Thank you, Gary. Thank you, Gary. The worship
band is going to come out and close us out, but let me just
capture your thought for a couple of minutes. Some of you, in response
to what Gary shared, are saying, wow. And some of you are saying,
so what? There's both of you here today.
I know it. We've all been there. Wow, and so what? Let me remind
you that the God of all creation, the God who created the heavens
and the earth, everything on the earth and under the earth,
is the God who created you. Uniquely you. In the image of
God, you. He created you for His purposes,
for His glory. He wants to redeem you, as He
does me, and He does that by buying us back at a great price.
Redemption is buying back at a price. And the price He redeemed
us was the price of the blood of Jesus Christ on the cross. So today, the God of all creation
is pursuing you in a love relationship known as salvation. The Bible
says, God so loved the people of the world that he gave his
one and only, that whosoever would call upon him would not
perish, but have everlasting life. God wants you to know him. And let me share this. All of
us have three options in response to God's pursuit. Number one,
we can run as far and as fast as we can away from God. And
many do that. That's a rebellious heart. Second,
you can stand still. You're not running, but you're
not moving toward him. That's a stubborn heart. But
the third option is a surrendered heart, where you say, oh God,
in response to your love for me in creation and in allowing
me to live and have life and breath, I acknowledge that I'm
undone, incomplete in my sin, and I want to be made whole.
and only happens through you. I run to you with arms wide open. That's a surrendered heart. And
that's what He wants from all of us. And unless and until we
surrender our heart and our lives, we will stubbornly and rebelliously
walk through life never knowing truth. Please, as this worship
band plays and closes out today, you reconcile in your own heart
and mind. Do I know the God of all creation?
Creation Not Confusion
FBC Arnold welcomes Dr. Gary Bates with Creation Ministries for a message on creation.
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| Duration | 54:24 |
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| Category | Sunday Service |
| Language | English |
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